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Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	New Grill Help
Date:	8/15/2011 10:35:15 PM

Looking to replace our outdoor gas grill . Looked at an Infared Charbroil. Anyone cooking with infared care to share your opinion? Looked at a 2 burner at Lowes and Home Depot. Thanks.

Name:	Summer Lover -	Reply
Subject:	New Grill Help
Date:	8/16/2011 10:05:47 AM

Consumer Reports did a test a while back, and I believe they stated there was no advantage to the Char-Broil system - I will try to dig up the magazine tonight to confirm.

Name:	Ulysses E. McGill -	Reply
Subject:	New Grill Help
Date:	8/16/2011 12:46:58 PM

do your taste buds a favor and buy something that burns wood and coal.

Name:	Summer Lover -	Reply
Subject:	New Grill Help
Date:	8/16/2011 1:01:24 PM

Like a choo choo train?

Name:	Ulysses E. McGill -	Reply
Subject:	That is one way to go....
Date:	8/16/2011 1:12:08 PM

see link

URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI0RrpqBmwI&feature=related

Name:	Mack -	Reply
Subject:	New Grill Help
Date:	8/16/2011 6:34:56 PM

Try a test run with charcoal before you buy gas again, assuming here that that you have always used gas?? There is a reason BBQ Competition uses only wood/charcoal.
Borrow a beat up Weber from a neighbor/friend. Do a little on-line research on how to cook over charcoal (sites galore, just ask here). Cook your steak/fish/pork chop on charcoal. Cook your wife's on your gas unit. Compare tastes, etc. As well as effort/trouble/clean-up/ grill costs/durability//
A little extra effort required, but so is cooking on any grill rather than an oven inside??
Then, search back on this Forum for the debates on charcoal grills, and decide which charcoal grill is best for you.
Have fun!!

Name:	Ulysses E. McGill -	Reply
Subject:	and....
Date:	8/16/2011 7:05:28 PM (updated 8/16/2011 7:08:21 PM)

for anyone that says gas is faster, that argument just doesn't float. I can cook a steak on lump charcoal as fast as it can be cooked on a gas grill (when measured from walking outside to serving) and the product will be far better every time.....and other things were just meant to be cooked slooow with real wood smoke. It's a little messier, but the product is Soooo worth it. Many, many years ago I was a "gas" supporter, but I badly lost a grilling battle (due to my ignorance) and was a quick convert. I parked the gas grill forever and got a Weber (now I have 3 Webers and 2 Green Eggs). BTW, the guy I lost that battle to was my student in Air Force pilot training, and he is now COO of the Out Door Channel.

Name:	Mack -	Reply
Subject:	Then, Too....
Date:	8/16/2011 8:05:09 PM

I used gas grills for maybe 20 years. I never had one that worked for more than about 4 years, without beginning to replace burned out parts at a rather large cost. And, some of them cost around $500 new>> Didn't matter, still burned out, various brands. They did a "Fair" job, but did not hold up over time. The "Igniter" is a prime example. Charcoal.

On the expensive side of the charcoal grill debate is the notorious Big Green Egg, for about $700 and up.
On the cheap side is the durable Weber Kettle at $90 wherever you shop for it. Xtra $70 for smoker attachment.
Both grills have proof of durability, flexibility, ease of use, and extremely good meat brought to the plate.
Again, do your homework. I asked my wife what she thought about a $1000 charcoal grill?? She asked me if the grill cleaned the platter/shredded the meat/washed the dishes or shopped for food? I got the Weber (for now).
Good luck. It is a Man Thing, and it is FUN!!

Name:	Ulysses E. McGill -	Reply
Subject:	agree
Date:	8/16/2011 8:54:04 PM (updated 8/16/2011 8:54:32 PM)

My oldest Weber was a fathers day present from my daughter (and her mother) in 1988...very durable and a superb value. The BGE takes a little more thought to buy, but is also a superb value for someone that really enjoys outdoor cooking; it offers a lot more flexibility (and I can do a lot with a Weber). I'm not sure I would have ever bought a BGE on my own (I was very happy using Weber kettle grills) but was given one as a birthday gift.....I liked it so much I went and bought another one the next year so I could have one at both homes.

Name:	Pontoonfisher -	Reply
Subject:	New Grill Help
Date:	8/17/2011 7:20:29 AM

For us younger folk, gas suits our lives better. Just don't have the time to deal with the time and effort of wood/charcoal. When I'm an old fart and have more time on my hands I will probably switch.

Name:	Mack -	Reply
Subject:	Well, Mr. Pontoon...
Date:	8/17/2011 8:52:38 AM

I am an old fart. But, when I have gas all the time inside the house, I don't want to go outside to cook on it too.

Name:	Summer Lover -	Reply
Subject:	That is one way to go....
Date:	8/17/2011 8:56:34 AM

LOL - you pegged it....

Name:	Summer Lover -	Reply
Subject:	Well, Mr. Pontoon...
Date:	8/17/2011 8:58:47 AM

Talk about imparting a fowl taste to chicken, or a curdling taste to beef....

Name:	4lakelivn -	Reply
Subject:	New Grill Help
Date:	8/17/2011 10:46:44 AM

Ok, I'll throw my nickle in this. I'm an old charcoal type guy going back to believing in the briquette as a main source of fuel. When gas came along, for convenience and speed, I threw out the rusty charcoal grill and used gas for many years. After being married for so long, you run out of "unique" gifts to give your spouse. My wife found the best "unique" gift 4 Christmases ago - the large Big Green Egg. (Also, being an "Egghead" makes it convenient for future gifts - cover, plate setter, V-rack, etc. There's even a computer attachment to regulate your long term temperature.)

Admittedly, at first, I was afraid of it and let it sit for a couple of months before I tried it. I read up on cooking with lump charcoal (compressed wood) as opposed to briquettes (chemical taste and smell). Lump charcoal is re-usable with little ash. As stated above, the time to get the fire going and cooking time is equal or less than gas and you get the wood/smokey taste. I use a chimney to start my fires - not the BGE fire starter. Use the recipe book that comes with the Egg, then log on to the BGE forum for additional recipes.

I have a BGE at home and a Weber at the lake (left by the previous owner). For indirect cooking on the Weber, I have 2 fuel holders ($10 online) and use the same lump charcoal I use in the BGE. I don't use the BGE brand charcoal - I buy Royal Oak Lump at Walmart for < $7.00 for 10 lbs. It's made at the same place the BGE lump is made - just a different color bag.

I cook chicken, steak, turkey burgers and hamburgers, pork (butts, ribs, tenderloin, roasts), fish (salmon, talapia), several Thanksgiving turkeys as well as turkey breasts only - all on the Egg. I've got a chicken wing recipe to die for, called Georgia Red Wings.

Originally, I thought $700 for a charcoal grill (BGE) was absurd, but for the taste, quality, little maintenance, I'm sold - If mine got stolen or damaged by natural disaster (the only way you can hurt one), I'd just go buy another one. As a side note - I got a fancy brushed chrome gas grill for retirement 4 years ago and never even opened the box - sold it on Craigslist and never looked back. It paid for a lot of boat fuel.

Everyone has an opinion, and that's mine. Go with lump charcoal. If you don't want to invest in an Egg, the Weber will do for a while. Eventually, you'll get comfortable with lump and get in the "Egg" business.

Name:	Ulysses E. McGill -	Reply
Subject:	New Grill Help
Date:	8/18/2011 10:59:53 AM

Spot on. But to paraphrase Col. Jessep, there are those that can't handle the truth.....lol.

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	New Grill Help
Date:	8/18/2011 12:17:22 PM

Don't confuse me with the facts, please. I had a BGE before they were cool (1996) and have use it for smoking everything. But I still use the gas grill too. Based on the above discussion, however, looks like I will have to consider some changes.

Name:	Mack -	Reply
Subject:	Hey, GF, You Never Said>>>
Date:	8/18/2011 7:24:27 PM

what you use a grill for?? Or, how often? Might make a big difference in what is suggested.

Name:	Mack -	Reply
Subject:	Hey, GF,, you Fishin'
Date:	8/21/2011 4:38:21 PM

for a debate among us over different grills for your reading pleasure, or did you really want some advice?

Name:	Mack -	Reply
Subject:	That's What I Thought
Date:	8/23/2011 6:42:06 PM